Connect a fuel pressure sensor (or other pressure sensor)

EricM

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A fuel pressure sensor with a 0-5v output (pretty much all of them) can be connected to the ecu-GN. Don't be confused on the sensor power voltage. Some sensors are powered by 5v, some 12v, but still output a 0-5v signal.

The sensors have 3 wires: power, ground, and signal. Assuming you have the power and ground squared away, you just need to connect the signal wire to the ECU. One method is to run a wire through the firewall to the ECU, or you can use one of the EGR wires since those won't be used anymore for EGR. The ECU has been designed to use those wires as analog inputs. There are also 5 more analog inputs (ADC01-05) at the terminal strip on the side of the ECU. (see the Extra inputs and Outputs doc on the flashdrive)

The EGR plug has 4 wires. 12v power, ground, grey, brown. The grey and brown are both analog inputs to the ECU. (pink/black is 12V ignition power, black is ground)

The Brown wire is "Analog In 1" (which goes to D9 at the ECU)
The Grey wire is "Analog In 2" (which goes to A4 at the ECU)

You can connect the fuel pressure sensor signal output to one of those analog inputs. For this example, let use Analog In 1, the brown wire. You'll need to tap into the wire, unless you have a connector that fits it. By the way, Caspers Electronics makes a harness for this, part 109037 (www.casperselectronics.com), which uses the 12v and ground from the EGR to power the sensors, so make sure you have 12v powered sensors if using that harness.

Once you've made your wiring connection, we can connect to the ECU with your laptop to set up the input.

You'll need to set up a Generic Sensor on the Advanced Engine menu. These settings assume you have a typical AEM or SSI 100psi style 5v sensor that outputs .5 to 4.5 volts (0 to 100psi). If you have something different, post here and we can figure it out.

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The sensor will be called "Sensor 6" or "Fuel Press PSI" in other parts of the software if you want to make a gauge. I set up that sensor in PSI for gauge purposes. If you want to use fuel pressure correction, you will also need a sensor set up in kpa.

In that case, make another sensor in position 07, still using analog in 1, call it Fuel Press KPA, and use -86 and 776 for the 0v and 5v settings. Sometimes you'll need to bump the 0v setting around a little to make it read zero.

The ECU will now have fuel pressure as an input, but you'll want to see it on a gauge, so we need to go over making a gauge. I'll make a post about making gauges.
 
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Royal-T

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Is it ok to power more than 1 5V sender from the green strip? or do you have to use the additional 22 pin plug?
 

EricM

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It's similar, but a 2-wire temperature sensor doesn't output a 0-5v signal on its own. You have to feed 5v into the circuit using a resistor (called a pull up resistor). The ecuGN has one input that has a built in pull up resistor for this purpose, which is CAN ADC04. To enable the pull up resistor, you have to open the lid and set a jumper. Then one wire from the temp sensor will connect to CAN ADC04 and the other wire to ground. Then you can can configure the input like a 0-5v input in the generic sensors.
 

Etraugott

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ok, i have a temp sender from my autometer guage already in transmission but its a single wire. the body of sensor is grounded trough case. do you think this sensor would work or do you have a recommended sensor with values already figured out.
 

EricM

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You can try it and see. Sometimes there can be ground offsets when doing it that way.
The SMP TX73 sensor works and is the same calibration as a GM coolant sensor (and is 2-wire).
 

SpeedRacerX

New Member
Followed all of the instructions here to install my trans temp sender today as a gauge on the ecu-gn dash. It is a two wire sender. The black went to ground and the white went to adc04 on the ecu-gn. I also changed the jumper on exp-AN4 inside to ON. Seems to work now. I gave it GM calibration. Added the gauge fine. Seems to be reading ok.

Is there anything I overlooked?
 

Slow91z

New Member
Hey Eric, I don't own any of this stuff but I'm attempting to educate myself on your system and I have a question. You say the EGR plug has 12 volts going to it, but I believe the Casper kit you reference has 5v sensors on it, is there another wiring change in the car that isn't covered here?
 

EricM

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The Caspers kit has sensors that are 12v powered, but output a 0-5v signal, so no other changes are needed.
 

DukeGN

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I recently hooked up the Casper's wiring harness with the sensors that came with it. First, for fuel pressure you need to use Analog 2 for Sensor 6 in Generic Sensor inputs based on the two lengths of the connectors on the harness. This is the grey wire in the Casper's harness and the EGR connector, which uses A4 in the ecu wiring harness. Analog 1, the brown wire, will go to an oil pressure sensor and is the longer part of the harness. Second, the sensors are SSI P51, which use 1V to 5V. Referencing the formula on page 241 of the TunerStudio MS Lite Reference Guide, the 0V for a fuel pressure sensor is -25.0 and the 5V is 100, according to my calculations. If you also add Sensor 7 with Analog 2 to that tracks fuel pressure by reference to kPA, the values are -172.4 at 0V and 689.5 at 5V.
 

turbo nasty

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I recently hooked up the Casper's wiring harness with the sensors that came with it. First, for fuel pressure you need to use Analog 2 for Sensor 6 in Generic Sensor inputs based on the two lengths of the connectors on the harness. This is the grey wire in the Casper's harness and the EGR connector, which uses A4 in the ecu wiring harness. Analog 1, the brown wire, will go to an oil pressure sensor and is the longer part of the harness. Second, the sensors are SSI P51, which use 1V to 5V. Referencing the formula on page 241 of the TunerStudio MS Lite Reference Guide, the 0V for a fuel pressure sensor is -25.0 and the 5V is 100, according to my calculations. If you also add Sensor 7 with Analog 2 to that tracks fuel pressure by reference to kPA, the values are -172.4 at 0V and 689.5 at 5V.
Just ran into this as well and noticed the formula was based off of Honeywell vs. SSI. Thanks for posting
 
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